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Tropical or Sidereal Astrology?

Sidereal Astrologers have argued differences which make their system of astrology "superior," claiming that Tropicalists are "off" by 15-16 degrees in their "observation" of the stars. Scientists berating the value of our traditional astrology also use this very question to humble astrology "as bunk," to the public.

How does the Tropicalist answer?

 

Ancient astrology did not make quantitative inquiries where the lore of the forefathers was still being transmitted orally. Only after the establishment of an alphabet, primarily the Hebrew alphabet, did the mythology which had been an oral tradition, finally find its way into ink and paper.

The Hebrew alphabet, because it was the first written alphabet of the ancient world which could be memorized by a five-year old was also the most compact with only 22 letters. This alphabet could become absorbed by thousands of common people, released from the secrecy of temple priests.

It could only be at this time that all mythology relegated to the stars were “frozen” on paper, for all time. The myths may have been written too soon, making their fluid portrayal among the constellations a thing of record, and no longer a tradition of story-telling. The difference between the experience in Nature and the effect of reading may have rerouted the traditions into text, and no longer as artifacts of Nature Herself.

The fact that we expect our constellations to submit to a measurement which is experienced only here on earth illustrates to what degree we have become separated from the orally-transmitted lore that at once encompassed history, astronomy and the unconscious without intellectually-derived bounds. These ancients who sought to answer their quandaries through their experiences of nature, did not seek to measure, repeat experiments or quantify their world. Their reaction was awe, and inspired the roots of religion which still seep into our current world experiences .

However, today we find that astrologers are on either side of a zodiacal argument, owing mostly to these facts. The sidereal zodiac is a measurement which finds the zodiac, star by star, to its position, no matter what relationship it has to our elliptical view of it. On the contrary, the tropical zodiac is firmly planted in a Sun/Moon relationship, and simply divides the sky by 30-degree sectors, according to its mathematicians, who saw fit to “correct” their math with a nip and a tuck for latitude or longitudinal differences. We may thus arrive at “intercepted” houses because of a calculation for extreme longitudes.

Either zodiac may be divided equally, or by any of the mathematicians, whether Poryphory, Ptolemy, Regiomontanus and at least a half-dozen others. So, what is the basis of the tropical zodiac? And why are astrologers so difficult to convince of their apparent “mistake” that when they say, for the number of degrees “off” that the Tropical Zodiac may be, that the Moon is in Scorpio, or the Sun in Leo, when in fact (or according to the Siderealists) neither is really true: the stars that represent that constellation are long since past the motion of the Moon. If you are a good observer of the night sky, the Tropicalist might admit, “Yes, the moon does seem to be closer to the stars which represent Sagittarius.”

It's important to take a lesson in Greek to better understand it. The word 'tropical,' takes its roots from the Greek, "tropos," meaning "pivot" or "turn" point. When we use it in other words of the English language, its meaning becomes more clear. A drug which induces changed perceptions would be called, "psychotropic," for instance.

Where are the "tropics?" These are the pivot points of the Sun's greatest northern or southern declinations. How do we experience these? June 21 and December 21 the Sun "changes his mind," and pivots in the opposite direction, signalling a return to longer nights or visa versa, i.e., the Solstice Points.

It is easy to think of the lines drawn on geographically-correct globes in classrooms and libraries. There are two lines, equidistant from the Equator, one called Capricorn (northern) and the other Cancer. Why are these called the Tropics? Because it is where the "Sun changes his mind," so to speak and returns to the opposite direction. But, is it due to the Sun, really? No.

The earth's axis performs this relational change which shifts hemispheric weather patterns, changing our summer into winter, but while we burn up in 100 degree weather, that same axis makes it inevitable to those in Adelaide or Buenos Aires to experience winter chill.

(View the movement of the earth's axis, and the view of the earth's seasonal changes, from space.)

In the northern hemisphere, the dominant cultures have either a Greek, or Hebrew stream somewhere near their fountainhead. It follows that European cultures (as illustrated by their language saturations) lead the popular cultures. Holidays like Christmas are therefore celebrated throughout the Southern Hemisphere as well the northern, even though at Christmas time, Sydney Australia is sweating and sipping iced tea while we in the Northern Hemisphere are jing-jing-jingling through the snow. I imagine Santa on a surfboard ubiquitous in the Land "down under." (I’ve never been, but I’m guessing this is so.)

Language is the carrier of cultures, and so Australians and South Americans (and many others) learn to tolerate the snowy pictures from elsewhere, all wishing everyone a happy holiday. Truly, cultures around the world recognize this fact very well. I am drawing a picture of the ubiquitous “forces” which maintain a kind of ancient “truth” about Nature and the types of rites and rituals which come about as our observations grow old, and perhaps no longer related to the ancient and original meanings. Take the word, "Sidereal." (See the article by Darby Costello, "Desire and the Stars" for a wonderful tour of etymological depth; for what Jung called, "the unconscious of the language.") "Sider" refers to stars, from the Latin. It is deep inside words like "consider," and "decide." To "con" and "sider" is to be "with" or "together" with the stars. In California we still pause by the state's markers of a bell by the side of some roads, marking "El Camino Real," meaning, the "royal" (real) "road" (el camino). The etymological tracings can go in many fascinating directions.

It is important to understand that culture and the whims of our religious practices have a deeply ingrained custom which weighs upon us and to which we adhere, year in, year out. We no longer question whether we believe the light will increase, even if it is the longest night of the year on December 21-22. We turn on a lighted tree or light a ceremonious candelabra, and say Happy Christmas or Hannukah, or any other fond greeting of fellowship, shared with those whom we wish to endear while gathered around on a holiday.

In astrology, these traditions come around in the form of Tropical Astrology.

Laura Shamas, (HeadlineMuse.com) mythologist and playright, "knows what she felt was an age-old reaction. In ancient cultures fall was considered a period of renewal."

"The Thesmophoria, the massive harvest festival of ancient Greece, took place in the fall because after a fall harvest there is replanting and hope for what the future yields," says Shamas. The pattern of fall as a new beginning was ingrained in us and we built it into our agrarian and academic cycles. But each year we're being torn away from those patterns by year-round school, nonstop schedules, and workdays that slow for no solstice.”

In ritual fashion, we still return to school in the fall, set our clocks to accommodate the change in light, be it in spring or fall, and follow the directions on seed packets for planting after the first frost.

We don’t just do this by a princely whim of legislation only lately imposed, we do it because the season changes us. So, the stars rise and fall, and the world turns once more, and the Siderealist that I become when I am outside on a summer night to admire the Dipper and search for that little teapot, the stars which formulate the constellation of Sagittarius, can indeed locate the Moon. I remember to make the 15-degree correction, and imagine that the actual stars (Sidereal) of the Moon's location are not Scorpio, where the Tropicalists insist on locating the moon tonight.

But, when I’m an astrologer, I still feel that night is the quiet of the day, noon is not the hour for bicycling in the summertime, that dawn is the brightening new hope, and that sunset is when I hang up my hat and consider plans for dinner. That’s Tropical living. And, it’s not my own little invention. It’s been since the language first wrote down the observations of the ancients, and this is the tradition that they used. And, it still works.

Ophiucius, a new constellation of the Zodiac?

This question of whether Ophicius should be included in the band of the zodiac, that set of constellations which are 'under' the orb of the Sun, has long been discussed. When I first began studying astrology in 1969, a book had been published, "The 13th Sign," and many other articles and titles have appeared over the years with varying results. As far as the adding or subtracting of another constellation into the very antique, extremely well-established zodiac (which, while we still have the Greek dictionary out) means "circle of animals", we are constantly barraged by a crowd of naysayers and fix-it types who want to "correct" this circle to their personal whim. I say it's a waste of time.

If we feel that Mother Earth herself, who mutely accepts whatever treatment we give her, must be defended, let us also include another mute witness of time immemorial with Her: ancient man. These are the populations who lived 100,000 years ago, for whom the ancient skies created the magic which we today transfer to television and web sites. These are the long-gone, mute witnesses who should be called to the stand as well, to testify as to why they named the constellations and ordered them so.

Until that Judgement day, I say leave well enough alone. Ophiucius still belongs, he is part of the story which Wendy Ashley includes in her "extra-zodiacal" readings, where the myths which join all the constellations are threaded together in cyclic stories. They cross the night sky like the ancient seafarer, finding dangers here, harbors there--very much like his ventures through the dangers of the world he occupied. In his world, all the constellations belonged to astrology, not just the zodiac. Just because we know Leo's archetype doesn't mean we may, without impugnity, also ignore that various other clusters relate to Leo: we may as well allow them to also amplify our client's charts; let's allow a connection to his story via Corvus the Crow or Hydra, the water plant. That is the nature of the Mythological connection in astrology, and yes, it's Sidereal in method.

The two systems, Sidereal and Tropical, can actually support eachother if the astrologer is prepared to understand them in the contexts of their intent. Neither are completely wrong, and conversely, nor are they superior to the other in any fashion: their parallels together can create a stronger astrology, if only astrologers did not succumb to the modern and fashionable argument about Superiority.

Alas, we moderns are not as astute as sky observers. We are more insistently focused on technology, and pure math. Exactitude as platitude is our homily. Ignorance, trampling and pure disrespect borne out of superiority in machinery is our technological unconscious at work.

This derails the ancient man’s position, who if he suddenly reappeared here on earth, may as well make hand signals and talk to horses before he actually conveys to any of us “modern people,” his intelligence and of what he knows. That would be of course after he took off all the electrical gadgets which measure his heart and brain waves, and following the procedures which puncture him with a syringe to get a sample of his blood. To him, we are evil to plant these invasions on his body; we haven't even heard his story.

However, none of our measurements and quantifications were the concern of very ancient man. Only the facts of Nature impressed him. These were the death, birth and constant grinding of his daily existence. Only they could retell his story, and around each campfire his eyes glinted a greater insight, and his progeny would tell the story again, only to add their polish and experiences until it became the Mythos, written down in canons only too recently--but still too long ago to remember their sources. Sadly, today we worship the text, not the context.

Perhaps we might walk a few miles in his bare feet in order to get at a more basic sense of respect for the lengthy lore that still remains intact for our digestion. Something in our attitude might bear a bit of honor to this "cave man," whom we continually disparage in the same act of superior thinking which physically pollutes the earth.

In answer to a question posed to the All_astrology discussion, August 28, 2001

 
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