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Frequently Asked Questions @ The Astrologer's Water Cooler

INCLUDE THE BIRTH DATA

AVOID DIGEST NUMBERS FOR THE SUBJECT HEADER, USE THE PREVIOUS HEADER IF YOU ARE RESPONDING TO ANY POST 

MODERATOR MAY EDIT 

PRIVATE MESSAGE 

PLACE YOUR POST ON TOP OF PREVIOUS

QUOTATION MARKERS

THE ARCHIVES CONTAIN MANY SECRETS 

YOUR MEMBERSHIP IS AN HONOR 

GETTING SOME ATTENTION ON YOUR CHART: FREE READINGS 

SPIRIT OF DISCUSSION: for prolific writers

MODERATOR WEARINESS

OFF-TOPIC AND OBFUSCATION

UNSUBSCRIBE

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Suggestions for Maintaining the Dialogue and Staying in the Flow: 

A few reasons why your post may not be published to the list.

My ideals for rich astrological discussion occur after having experienced the "free-for-alls" at alt.astrology and on other lists.  I have maintained in fairly rigorous order (not perfectly, not consistently!) the spirit of an on-topic astrological list. It is the reader that concerns me, and the writers who are rejected at first learn to respect that care for the reader is a priority.  What the writing members are learning (as I regularly reject many of them!) is that their second submissions get the responses, and keep the discussion lively.  That is my goal.

I hope to promote critical thinking in astrology, and hope that astrologers might appreciate more in-depth coverage of subject matter.  Your thoughts and ideas are welcome. You are under no obligation except to elevate our discussion as it continues into a greater understanding, either from experience or from your own chart, of the fascination of astrology.

I am a writer, publicist and former newspaper editor, and consider such editorial skills as an asset for this list. It is always a delight to hear from anyone who wishes to write to me privately.  I thank you for your participation and look forward to long discussions into the night on our favorite subject.

ALWAYS INCLUDE THE BIRTH DATA Never hesitate to include it regularly.  If you should omit the birth data while describing a chart, astrologers must chorus the same question: "Where's the birth data?"  Time, date and place, please.  Always offer the option for the astrologer to calculate the chart.  The mind-twisting that goes on with listing "Moon in Scorpio, Sun in Virgo," etcetera, is a very demanding request to make when aspects are described or listed, instead of offering a look at a chart.  (back to the top)

AVOID DIGEST NUMBERS FOR THE SUBJECT HEADER The "digest subscriber's" Subject Line ("Digest Number 271") is vague, uninformative and misleading.  Please use a phrase from within the text of your letter to re-name your messages to the list to have appropriate titles.  Without the "meaty" subject line, most readers figure the post should be skipped and do not read the post. (back to the top)

Also avoid: "To CF" or "Dear Ken" in the subject header. Post under the correct header, the thread that you started was not called, "To CF".  As such, it looks as if it is private email, which is what I reccommend for private messages.  If you want to call attention to a single member and your post is intended for the entire list, please address them in the post, not in the subject header.

A good subject header gives the membership a specific reason to read yous post. Your post may be rejected if you allow it to go to the list, using "Digest Number 2009" or some such, which offers to the reader no information about what you are writing, and breaks down the "search thread" function at Yahoo, already a weakened search environment. 

The subject header is only useful when you actually name your specific subject.  Also, "Pluto in Virgo" is not helpful if nothing else in your post mentions it.  As a rule, find a phrase to qualify as a title after you have finished writing.  There are usually several good ones hidden in your text. I reserve the right to change these to make the relevant choice on subject headers.

MODERATOR MAY EDIT: if my time is not too short, I may edit your text if you have an obvious spelling that would enable readers to better enjoy it if I just tinkered a little.  The Subject Header is the only part of the message which the moderator cannot change without shipping an error message instead of a post to the group. (back to the top)

WHAT TO DO WITH THE PREVIOUS LETTER If you choose not comment upon the previous letter, remove it completely.  If you change the subject when you remove the previous letter, please also change the Subject Header line.  The subject header is one place where writers can be very expressive and helpful to the reader.  This is what attracts people to read; if the list is busy, you will be competing with all the other writers for various astrologers' attention. Even if the list is slow, you are competing with people's busy lives. 

QUOTATION MARKERS of the previous post: REMOVAL OF>> (quotations) IS CONFUSING When >> (quotations) markers are gone, no one is sure which are your responses as opposed to the comments by the previous writer. Please leave them in place.  When these markers show up, they signify the work of the previous writer and enable the reader to follow what the gist of the conversation may be. (back to the top)

PRIVATE MESSAGE: The short "thank you note" is a private letter and should be addressed privately. If it is a personal response, intended for only one person, it is a private message. Their e-mail address is always included in your post.  If you cannot see it, use the "properties" menu when you left-click on the email (in MSOutlook) If you are responding to the digest and the person's e-mail address has been removed, go to the YahooGroups.com site and seek the membership information there.  Or, contact the moderator. (back to the top)

PLACE YOUR POST ON TOP: Always write to the top of the previous writer's work. Place your text above the previous post's text, and leave a few sentences and the time signatures, "header" information, remove the Yahoo links. Don't place your post in an inferior position as a courtesy to others on the list.  (back to the top)

THE ARCHIVES CONTAIN MANY SECRETS Of course, find the archives and delve deeply there. If you are commenting from the archives, please include the link to the archive which launched your writing. (back to the top)

YOUR MEMBERSHIP IS AN HONOR (not a right) You are welcome to post to the list, and any rejections of posts are not singled out by any means!  However, I have some standards that take patience and some courage to become acquainted.  I hope that you will return soon, and that you will find there is much learning going on as you participate. (back to the top)

OFF-TOPIC: A thread becomes "off topic" when it references subjects external to astrology; it can often just as well be sent privately. (back to the top)

OBFUSCATION When a writer responds to a previous post but demonstrates his point with unclear or unrelated references, it may indicate his lack of understanding, or lack of critical thinking, and risks being rejected on the basis of obfuscation.

SPIRIT OF DISCUSSION: If you are prolific, and want to engender discussion around a hot topic of your own, please do not invade the list with more than one or two new topics per week. If you are inclined to work in that fashion, I reccommend you start your own discussion group, or post to your own blog or website. This list is created in my fashion, to my taste. You may do your own will at your own site. I am doing mine, surprisingly to many, at my own discussion group. That is the spirit of the (less hostile) Internet. (back to the top)

To one writer I asked, "Do you brashly walk into a party where people are in conversation and just abruptly suggest a new topic that to the conversation in progress, one which has no relationship to it at all?" (See the newbie page, please.) (back to the top)

While these requests are made in the spirit of discussion, please do not assume that criticism is being weighed against you.  This is a courtesy to allow you to flourish and enjoy to the maximum that which discussion might offer.  I look forward to "hearing" more from you on the list and thank you for your courtesies and interest. (back to the top)

FREE READING: Newbies Welcome: "Free Readings" discouraged. Let us teach you to read it for yourself. Attention given to the needs of those new to the study of astrology. Read the welcome letter's "newbie link" to succeed with your first post. For the long-time members of the list who have posted and shown they are interested in being a part of discussion, oftentimes a "free reading" comes out to establish a point, or to offer some solace, as we are becoming friends and it is a part of the on-going discussion. (back to the top)

MODERATOR WEARINESS Sometimes a thread is just thread bare. I get weary of it as it becomes an exclusive argument to which no one else may add their two cents, mostly because chart data is not listed and so none may participate by throwing in a comment from looking at a chart. Because time is mostly short, you may notice that your post has not been published, and that I am too weary to explain. (back to the top)

UNSUBSCRIBE All members freely subscribe and unsubscribe at will. The links are on the bottom of every post. The moderators have no idea who is on or off at any time, since maintaining a "gate keeper" position is an unnecessary drain on the moderator's time. (back to the top)

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The astrologer's water cooler was "born" May 23, 1998, at 07:08 PDT, Sonoma, CA, USA. As usual, such births are thrust upon us by events, at times not necessarily elected astrologically.

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